Tarcisio: The romanticization reaches the point where people worry about the unconstitutional state of affairs and worry about the prison system, but with the objective of putting a bunch of people on the street.
Tarcisio: Ultimately, that is what is being considered: mass decarceration.
This is going to be a problem, because imagine a State of the Federation suddenly telling its society, 'No, tomorrow we will put 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 criminals on the street.'
Tarcisio: Now, who would accept that?
Tarcisio: The São Paulo prison system—how many people are there?