Kim Kataguiri: And everything indicates there is much more to come out about him.
Kim Kataguiri: And then, I think... The only chance Lula would have to win in the second round would be to face Flávio, but he is not in a good moment; Lula is worn out, the only enthusiasm his base has comes from Flávio's decline, but they don't consider that Lula is doing well or that Lula would perform strongly.
So, in my assessment, Renan's pre-candidacy to reach the second round against Lula has every chance of winning.
Desconhecido: Do you believe in the possibility of Renan making it to the second round?
Kim Kataguiri: I have absolutely no doubt, I have absolutely no doubt.