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O que TRUMP e os EUA querem com as ELEIÇÕES do BRASIL?

207 classified statements · 1 politicians · June 10, 2026 · 23 min

Statements by Kim Kataguiri. 207 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Foreign Policy and Diplomacy, Legislative Policy, Electoral Strategy, Parties and Elections.

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  1. Kim Kataguiri

    0:00

    Against

    About: military intervention by the United States in Brazil

    We can't buy into the false narrative that the United States will come into Brazil and exterminate the PCC and the Comando Vermelho.

    Why it was classified this way · 92% confidence denies claims of external intervention, asserting that the U.S. will not 'exterminar' factions.

  2. Kim Kataguiri

    0:06

    Neutral

    About: prioritize the United States' interests in relations with Brazil

    No, the United States—first of all—there is an illusion among the most radical Bolsonaro supporters that Trump has any interest other than that of the United States.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence states that Trump acts according to U.S. interests, describing external behavior.

  3. Kim Kataguiri

    0:14

    Neutral

    About: prioritize the United States' interests in relations with Brazil

    That he has some kind of republicanism—like saying, 'no, I'm very concerned with Brazil's commercial, security and freedom issues.'

    Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence repeats that there is no foreign concern for Brazilian interests.

  4. Kim Kataguiri

    0:21

    Neutral

    About: prioritize the United States' interests in relations with Brazil

    So, he couldn't care less.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence sums up with 'não poderia se importar menos', describing U.S. interest.

  5. Kim Kataguiri

    0:25

    For

    About: pass more bills in Congress

    If you've noticed that this isn't about petty speeches here, that it's about work—it's the largest number of reports and bills approved, and the bad reports and bills blocked.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence claims legislative work and the approval of projects as personal merit.

  6. Kim Kataguiri

    0:36

    For

    About: raise funds for campaign

    If you're tired of fake populists who only put up little videos, cheap speeches or ribbon-cuttings being inaugurated in your town, then I need your help to continue my work.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly asks for help to continue work and campaign (request for donation).

  7. Kim Kataguiri

    0:46

    For

    About: raise funds for campaign

    Click the link and you'll be able to participate and help chip in for my campaign.

    Why it was classified this way · 95% confidence direct link and call to contribute to the campaign fundraiser.

  8. Desconhecido

    0:50

    We're here with another edition of the program Café com Política.
  9. Desconhecido

    0:54

    I'm Janai.
  10. Desconhecido

    0:55

    I'm Ana Fonseca; I'm here accompanied by journalist Érica Giovannini, and today we're going to talk with federal deputy Kim Kataguiri for the Partido Missão of São Paulo.
  11. Desconhecido

    1:07

    Hi deputy, welcome, thank you for accepting our invitation.
  12. Kim Kataguiri

    1:11

    Thank you, I'm the one who should be thanking you for the invitation.
  13. Desconhecido

    1:13

    Deputy, in election years, you as a federal deputy will now confirm that you're already a pre-candidate for the government of São Paulo.
  14. Desconhecido

    1:22

    That's right.
  15. Desconhecido

    1:22

    What are the expectations?
  16. Desconhecido

    1:24

    Is this your first term?
  17. Desconhecido

    1:26

    Second.
  18. Desconhecido

    1:27

    Second term as a federal deputy.
  19. Desconhecido

    1:28

    So it's an expected step, right?
  20. Kim Kataguiri

    1:31

    For

    About: run in elections without relying on party bosses

    Well, now we have our own party, so we're fortunate to be able to run in whatever election we want without needing any kind of approval from a party boss, because we know that most parties are from the Centrão, including my former party, União Brasil.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence defends the party's autonomy to compete without the approval of party bosses.

  21. Kim Kataguiri

    1:47

    Against

    About: form opportunistic coalitions with different governments

    They generally have no interest in promoting any program or idea; they're only interested in having some position with whoever is going to win.

    Why it was classified this way · 81% confidence criticizes parties that only seek positions, calling it a lack of programmatic interest.

  22. Kim Kataguiri

    1:54

    For

    About: implement the Partido Missão program

    And that is not our intention; our intention is always to be the top of the ticket, to contest majoritarian elections, to implement our program.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence declares explicit intention to run as top of the ticket to implement the program.

  23. Kim Kataguiri

    2:01

    Against

    About: make political alliances to obtain positions

    We have no interest in joining any government in exchange for positions.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence denies interest in forming alliances with governments in exchange for posts (explicit opposition).

  24. Kim Kataguiri

    2:05

    Our interest is to implement our program.
  25. Kim Kataguiri

    2:07

    Against

    About: make political alliances to obtain positions

    If it's not to implement our program, we won't be an accessory to anyone else's program.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence reaffirms they will not be an 'adereço' to others' programs without implementing their own.

  26. Desconhecido

    2:13

    And along those lines you mentioned, will Partido Missão have a candidate in practically every state? How is that national composition?
  27. Kim Kataguiri

    2:21

    For

    About: announce candidacy for state governor

    In several states we should have candidates: I was recently in Rio de Janeiro; we'll also have them in Santa Catarina, in Pernambuco and in Paraná—just to name the latest states where I went to strengthen the party. So in several states we should indeed have gubernatorial candidacies.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence announces intention and organization to contest governorships in several states.

  28. Desconhecido

    2:39

    And what do the numbers look like for federal and state caucuses in terms of the electoral threshold?
  29. Desconhecido

    2:46

    New parties?
  30. Desconhecido

    2:47

    Neutral

    About: maintain the electoral barrier clause

    We know there is a difficulty and the electoral threshold is getting increasingly strict.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence reports that the barrier clause is stricter (context description).

  31. Desconhecido

    2:50

    What's the strategy?
  32. Desconhecido

    2:51

    Is there a figure?
  33. Kim Kataguiri

    2:52

    For

    About: overcome the electoral barrier clause

    I don't think we'll have any difficulty with the electoral threshold, because we have a successful presidential campaign.

    Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence expresses conviction that the party will not have difficulty overcoming the threshold.

  34. Kim Kataguiri

    3:00

    Neutral

    About: increase awareness and support for Renan Santos in the State

    Today, right now, Renan Santos in the latest Atlas poll already shows up in third place.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence cites a poll result saying Renan appears third, a factual report.

  35. Kim Kataguiri

    3:04

    7% of voting intentions, more than the two former governors—Caiado and Zema—here from Minas, even without ever having run in an election, even with a much higher level of unfamiliarity than all the other pre-candidates.
  36. Kim Kataguiri

    3:16

    For

    About: obtain increasing votes in elections

    So naturally we'll have a very strong party vote.

    Why it was classified this way · 77% confidence expects a strong party vote as a consequence of the pre-candidacy.

  37. Kim Kataguiri

    3:19

    Neutral

    About: field slates in all states of the Federation

    We put together slates in all 26 states of the Federation and the Federal District.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence reports that they fielded slates in 26 states and the Federal District (action description).

  38. Kim Kataguiri

    3:25

    And I've been traveling around Brazil, as have other national coordinators and national figures of Partido Missão.
  39. Kim Kataguiri

    3:31

    Renan Santos is also touring the country now.
  40. Kim Kataguiri

    3:33

    He just left Bahia; before that he was in Maranhão and with very expressive growth.
  41. Kim Kataguiri

    3:38

    A poll came out today in Rio Grande do Norte; Renan also already appears with 7.5%.
  42. Kim Kataguiri

    3:42

    So naturally, the fact that we have a strong presidential pre-candidacy also drags support for the federal deputy slates, and we have good personnel to contest those slates in the states.
  43. Kim Kataguiri

    3:57

    Neutral

    About: ensure television airtime and party funding for parties

    So I really don't believe it will be a problem, although... if we don't surpass the electoral threshold, it's not fatal for us like it is for other parties, because... we don't depend for our existence on TV airtime—obviously that's excellent and increases competitiveness, which we want, but we won't die without it, and we also won't die without having party funding.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence explains that the party does not depend on those funds and comments on electoral effects.

  44. Kim Kataguiri

    4:19

    For

    About: count on supporters and activists to sustain the party

    We have 12 years of Movimento Brasil Livre in which we've always relied on our supporters, on our activists, and therefore if we don't meet the threshold it will not—it's far, very far from being our end; we will not federate, we will not form coalitions, we will not merge with any other party because of that.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says the movement and activists funded the party for 12 years.

  45. Desconhecido

    4:36

    And do you already have any... estimate of how many federal and state deputies here in Minas, for example?
  46. Kim Kataguiri

    4:45

    I find it hard to give a number.
  47. Kim Kataguiri

    4:46

    First, you're asking the worst person in the party because I've always gotten my own vote counts wrong.
  48. Kim Kataguiri

    4:51

    I don't even get right how many votes I got; I've overestimated and underestimated.
  49. Kim Kataguiri

    4:55

    So I'm not a good calculator of slates, unlike other party leaders.
  50. Kim Kataguiri

    5:03

    But I believe and I'm very optimistic because of Renan's pre-candidacy and because of the quality we have here in Minas Gerais.
  51. Kim Kataguiri

    5:11

    We've always had a very strong core of the MBL and now also with the organization of Partido Missão.
  52. Kim Kataguiri

    5:17

    Just to mention that one of our members accompanying me here is Rafa Cupertino; we have councilor Enchapada Gaúcha, who is Luana Silva, who is currently going through a process of persecution.
  53. Kim Kataguiri

    5:27

    Now that we're in a tough clash there with the mayor and the president of the Chamber, we have Israel Russo, who is a councilor in Pouso Alegre, so it's also a strong core here in Belo Horizonte. So it's one of the states—after the state of São Paulo—it's the state where we have the most councilors and the most municipal cores of the party and of Movimento Brasil Livre. So Minas is a state that has two mixed feelings.
  54. Kim Kataguiri

    5:50

    First, I'm reassured to have good personnel and to have consistent work.
  55. Kim Kataguiri

    5:54

    And secondly, my level of demand as a member of Partido Missão regarding the State of Minas Gerais will be high, because it's not just any state—it's one of the most important states in the Federation and therefore the party must also deliver a lot here at the State Directory.
  56. Desconhecido

    6:10

    And speaking of Minas, since you don't intend to make agreements with other labels, here in Minas we have Ben Mendes of Partido Missão as a pre-candidate for governor.
  57. Desconhecido

    6:19

    In the latest opinion polls, unlike Renan, he is already showing a percentage oscillating between 2.6 and 3.8, depending on the candidate scenario presented.
  58. Desconhecido

    6:33

    To increase that percentage, to increase Ben Mendes' chance, do you really not intend to ally with any label, not make any alliance?
  59. Kim Kataguiri

    6:39

    Against

    About: not form electoral alliances that do not lead to victory

    No, because no alliance will lead to victory.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence states that no alliance will lead to victory, an explicit stance against coalition-building.

  60. Kim Kataguiri

    6:43

    For

    About: run a campaign without relying on platforms or alliances

    The most recent elections we have as reference of candidates from outside politics or outside the radar of the political class and analysts were successful campaigns without major alliances.

    Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence points to examples of successful outsiders without major alliances, endorsing that model.

  61. Kim Kataguiri

    6:55

    We have the example of Milley in Argentina, the example of Trump in the United States, the example of Bolsonaro in his first election, the example of Lula in his first election.
  62. Kim Kataguiri

    7:04

    So, candidates who first sought
  63. Kim Kataguiri

    7:09

    to run as head of the ticket, to pursue their propositions, running outside traditional candidacies.
  64. Kim Kataguiri

    7:15

    So I really don't think forming any kind of coalition will benefit or lead to victory.
  65. Desconhecido

    7:22

    And do you think there is a quality when the candidate is not within the political spectrum?
  66. Desconhecido

    7:28

    to gain more votes, you mentioned some names—Renan, Bolsonaro—he's already within the political system, he didn't have that projection, or is it more the candidate's ideology?
  67. Desconhecido

    7:36

    We recently did a piece on political outsiders, so I'd like to know your opinion.
  68. Kim Kataguiri

    7:41

    For

    About: formulate a detailed government program

    I think first of all, it's not that Partido Missão is just a novelty with an outsider trait or an outsider-style discourse.

    Why it was classified this way · 88% confidence claims to have detailed proposals, expert research, and a robust program.

  69. Kim Kataguiri

    7:51

    We have outsider proposals, different from what, for example, Lula brought in his first election, or what Bolsonaro brought in his first election.
  70. Kim Kataguiri

    7:59

    First of all, we have proposals—that's where it starts, right?
  71. Kim Kataguiri

    8:01

    Having observed the presidential scene a lot, Lula gave up talking about proposals a long time ago and doesn't even need to talk because we already have the experience of his governments—we already know how it works, including the contradictions that exist within his own government.
  72. Kim Kataguiri

    8:15

    And Flávio Bolsonaro, when he was asked about proposals, said he couldn't talk because otherwise he'd be attacked, which astonishes me, because the very intention of launching yourself as a candidate is to talk about your proposals, and being attacked is part of it—even attacking others' and showing your programmatic superiority.
  73. Kim Kataguiri

    8:31

    So, first point: we have proposals.
  74. Kim Kataguiri

    8:36

    We are the only group that did research with experts from all areas to bring what's best in the world to work in Brazil.
  75. Kim Kataguiri

    8:42

    For

    About: implement structural reforms in the economy

    And we will have the most detailed, in-depth program, with no fear of bringing unpopular proposals—proposals that Brazil needs to undergo, even if unpopular, because if it doesn't go through it will never become a serious country.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence argues that unpopular reforms are necessary to make the country serious.

  76. Kim Kataguiri

    8:53

    For

    About: restore fiscal and economic order in Brazil

    If it continues in this patchwork and makeshift fixes we always make, this will not work.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence criticizes budgetary maneuvers and calls for structural change to the fiscal framework.

  77. Kim Kataguiri

    8:58

    You put a fiscal framework here, a transitional PEC there, open a space outside the framework, put the nest egg into a private fund, artificially create space for precatórios.
  78. Kim Kataguiri

    9:08

    So if we continue with this amount of artifices in the budget that have only led us to the catastrophe we've been living for the last 40 years... this will never work.
  79. Kim Kataguiri

    9:18

    I've been revising and our program is in what we call Partido Missão's 'yellow book', which is where we have the diagnosis of where we are, where we came from, and where we want to go.
  80. Kim Kataguiri

    9:28

    And then the final program, which are our proposals for each sector—health, education, infrastructure, defense, environment, and so on.
  81. Kim Kataguiri

    9:36

    And it's an extremely detailed program, it's a robust program and I say that with confidence.
  82. Kim Kataguiri

    9:42

    Everyone knows that to run in a presidential election you need to file a government program with the TSE (Superior Electoral Court).
  83. Kim Kataguiri

    9:49

    The other programs will look like fourth-grade rough drafts next to ours.
  84. Desconhecido

    9:54

    In that respect, Partido Missão is a right-wing party.
  85. Desconhecido

    9:58

    And I'd like you to say how it differs from other right-wing parties, like the PL and bolsonarism—this bolsonarist line. You also criticize bolsonarism and have tried to distance yourselves from it, unlike others with a new party.
  86. Kim Kataguiri

    10:14

    Against

    About: form opportunistic coalitions with different governments

    Well, first, the PL is not a right-wing party; the PL is a Centrão party—Valdemar da Costa Neto doesn't have any ideology, in fact... I'd say if Valdemar were an ideological politician, his pocket would be full of ideology.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence accuses PL of opportunism and lack of ideology toward different governments.

  87. Kim Kataguiri

    10:27

    That's not the case; he doesn't believe in anything.
  88. Kim Kataguiri

    10:29

    He was arrested in the Mensalão, he was part of Dilma's government base, he was part of Lula's government base, then opportunistically he stuck with Bolsonaro, making Bolsonaro a hostage in his own party—so he has no ideology at all.
  89. Kim Kataguiri

    10:43

    A large part of the PL bench—I'd put about 15 or 20 deputies—vote together with Lula's government.
  90. Kim Kataguiri

    10:51

    And now, in the last week, we even saw the bolsonarist wing of the PL voting with Lula's government and with PSOL on the 6x1 scale PEC.
  91. Kim Kataguiri

    11:01

    Including your deputy Nicolas Ferreira, who said he was against it and in the end... voted in favor because he was afraid of losing popularity instead of defending what is right.
  92. Kim Kataguiri

    11:10

    For

    About: be a right-wing party with ideological coherence and defined agendas

    So, first point: we are indeed right-wing.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly states that Partido Missão is right-wing.

  93. Kim Kataguiri

    11:13

    Second, we're not friends with Daniel Vorcaro, which I think is a big difference compared to other parties that call themselves right-wing.
  94. Kim Kataguiri

    11:20

    Ciro Nogueira is all tied up with search-and-seizure at his home.
  95. Kim Kataguiri

    11:23

    Flávio Bolsonaro who says that... he went to ask for private money for a private film.
  96. Kim Kataguiri

    11:28

    I find it curious.
  97. Kim Kataguiri

    11:29

    I can imagine what Flávio would say if there were an audio of Lulinha asking Marcelo Odebrecht for film money—whether he would say it's private money for a private film.
  98. Kim Kataguiri

    11:37

    What a show, huh?
  99. Kim Kataguiri

    11:38

    130 million reais, right?
  100. Kim Kataguiri

    11:40

    Parasite, from South Korea, won an Oscar and cost a third of that.
  101. Kim Kataguiri

    11:44

    I really think it's a huge production; it looks like they're making the Brazilian Avengers in Bolsonaro's film to have that cost.
  102. Kim Kataguiri

    11:49

    I didn't know Jim Caviezel was worth more than Pedro Pascal, than Sidney Sweeney, because, I mean, what a fee to pay a guy who's been irrelevant in Hollywood for at least 20 years.
  103. Kim Kataguiri

    11:58

    So, we have a program — they only have a cult of personality.
  104. Kim Kataguiri

    12:05

    There is no coherence, there is no agenda they follow.
  105. Kim Kataguiri

    12:09

    They follow Bolsonaro.
  106. Kim Kataguiri

    12:11

    Whatever Bolsonaro says, they will do, like they did during Bolsonaro's government.
  107. Kim Kataguiri

    12:14

    So, they called themselves liberals.
  108. Kim Kataguiri

    12:16

    In the first year, Bolsonaro ordered to break the spending cap so he could spend more.
  109. Kim Kataguiri

    12:19

    They broke it.
  110. Kim Kataguiri

    12:20

    They called themselves critics of Bolsa Família.
  111. Kim Kataguiri

    12:22

    In the last year of his term, Bolsonaro broke the spending cap to increase Bolsa Família.
  112. Kim Kataguiri

    12:25

    Everyone voted together with the PT.
  113. Kim Kataguiri

    12:28

    They said they were against corruption.
  114. Kim Kataguiri

    12:30

    All the pro-Bolsonaro senators voted in favor of the Attorney General, Augusto Aras, who buried Operation Car Wash.
  115. Kim Kataguiri

    12:36

    They voted in favor of Cássio Nunes, who is the guy who always made a point of saying he was a rights-guarantee advocate, who criticized Operation Car Wash and other anti-corruption operations.
  116. Kim Kataguiri

    12:46

    So, there is no coherence, there is no agenda.
  117. Kim Kataguiri

    12:48

    We have coherence, we have an agenda, we are not beholden to anyone, while at the same time we know what it means to be on the right.
  118. Kim Kataguiri

    12:56

    That the PL is a right-wing party — I'm sure that if Valdemar or Bolsonaro sat here and I asked them, 'So, you're conservatives, right?'
  119. Kim Kataguiri

    13:07

    What do you think about the thought of Russell Kirk?
  120. Kim Kataguiri

    13:10

    They will say, 'What?'
  121. Kim Kataguiri

    13:11

    'Who is that?'
  122. Kim Kataguiri

    13:12

    'Who founded conservatism?'
  123. Kim Kataguiri

    13:14

    'You say you're conservatives, who founded it?'
  124. Kim Kataguiri

    13:15

    They won't get anywhere near Edmund Burke's England, not even a million light-years away.
  125. Kim Kataguiri

    13:20

    If you ask, 'Look, where did the tripartition of power arise?'
  126. Kim Kataguiri

    13:23

    You'll have to say, and I'm still being generous, that he might say, 'Oh, I think it was Montesquieu who wanted to copy in France the model that already existed in England.'
  127. Kim Kataguiri

    13:32

    So, first point, we are literate.
  128. Kim Kataguiri

    13:35

    I think with respect to the other parties that call themselves right-wing, we have that difference.
  129. Kim Kataguiri

    13:40

    Against

    About: be an accessory to Bolsonarism

    And Partido Novo had the opportunity to, in fact, bring a real difference from Bolsonarism and an ideological distance from corruption scandals involving Bolsonarism, but they chose to be Bolsonarism in sneakers.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence criticizes Partido Novo for acting as a 'light' version of bolsonarism.

  130. Kim Kataguiri

    13:54

    They chose to be an accessory to Bolsonaro's project.
  131. Kim Kataguiri

    13:57

    I remember in the last legislature, at times when we tried to summon Bolsonaro's ministers to talk about misappropriation of public funds, some deputies from Partido Novo voted against, to shield the government, to maintain the popularity of sticking to Bolsonaro.
  132. Kim Kataguiri

    14:13

    Because I think the strategy Novo sought was to try to be a generic, lighter Bolsonarism, where the guy who votes ashamedly for Bolsonaro doesn't want to vote for a Bolsonarist deputy — there's Nojinho there, despite voting for Bolsonaro.
  133. Kim Kataguiri

    14:29

    So he picks a guy from Partido Novo who supports Bolsonaro but doesn't carry the label of a Bolsonarist.
  134. Kim Kataguiri

    14:36

    That strategy failed in the last elections and I think it will fail again.
  135. Kim Kataguiri

    14:40

    Look at Zema.
  136. Kim Kataguiri

    14:41

    He made a very weak criticism of Flávio Bolsonaro, but just the little criticism he made was enough for the party directories to threaten and remove his candidacy.
  137. Kim Kataguiri

    14:50

    That is to say, it's easier for Novo to just support Flávio Bolsonaro and admit that they have no project of their own.
  138. Desconhecido

    14:55

    He recently declared support for Flávio in the second round.
  139. Desconhecido

    14:59

    What do you think about that?
  140. Desconhecido

    15:00

    He went back on the criticism he had made.
  141. Kim Kataguiri

    15:02

    Against

    About: declare support for another pre-candidate in the second round before running

    I do think that a pre-candidate for the presidency who keeps talking about supporting someone else in the second round doesn't want to compete.

    Why it was classified this way · 82% confidence says that anyone already talking about supporting someone else in the second round does not want to compete in the election.

  142. Kim Kataguiri

    15:08

    I say, then, what do you want to do?
  143. Kim Kataguiri

    15:10

    Do you want to get 5% or 6% to help your party?
  144. Kim Kataguiri

    15:13

    You don't intend to win?
  145. Kim Kataguiri

    15:14

    It's better not to run.
  146. Desconhecido

    15:16

    It's better to admit it.
  147. Kim Kataguiri

    15:17

    And a week before the Forcaro scandal, he was there having coffee and playing at being Flávio Bolsonaro's running mate.
  148. Kim Kataguiri

    15:24

    Look, nobody is naive.
  149. Kim Kataguiri

    15:26

    Everyone already knew of Flávio's involvement for some time, of Ciro Nogueira's involvement for some time, especially a state governor.
  150. Kim Kataguiri

    15:34

    I can have criticisms regarding... At times in interviews I've seen cognitive deficits in Zema, but he's not a fool.
  151. Kim Kataguiri

    15:46

    So, I mean, he already knew of the involvement, he already knew that Flávio Nair said to 'let them sniff' and still maintained the closeness.
  152. Kim Kataguiri

    15:53

    He's only trying to distance himself now because the scandal surfaced, but if it hadn't surfaced he would have been happy to walk hand in hand with Flávio Bolsonaro in the mall.
  153. Kim Kataguiri

    16:05

    I don't think Zema's pre-candidacy is serious.
  154. Kim Kataguiri

    16:08

    A large part of Partido Novo made alliances to support pro-Bolsonaro governors in their states and that doesn't make sense.
  155. Kim Kataguiri

    16:13

    If you have a pre-candidate for the presidency, you only support pre-candidates for the Senate and for governor who are aligned with your pre-candidate for president.
  156. Kim Kataguiri

    16:20

    It makes no sense to form a coalition with a party that will support someone else.
  157. Kim Kataguiri

    16:23

    So it's clear they only want to be an accessory to Bolsonarism and they have no project of their own.
  158. Desconhecido

    16:32

    We're talking about Flávio; you mentioned some contradictions you see in what Flávio Bolsonaro has done and said.
  159. Desconhecido

    16:39

    Recently, the president of your party, Renan Santos — he is president of Darigla and also a presidential hopeful — he criticized the fact that Flávio Bolsonaro talked about having Donald Trump place... the PCC and Comando Vermelho on the list of terrorists.
  160. Desconhecido

    17:01

    He criticized saying that the United States wouldn't 'get their hands on', quote-unquote, our criminals.
  161. Desconhecido

    17:09

    I don't remember the exact wording of the phrase, but he criticized that stance.
  162. Desconhecido

    17:12

    What do you think about that?
  163. Kim Kataguiri

    17:14

    Actually, what Renan said is the following.
  164. Kim Kataguiri

    17:16

    For

    About: classify PCC and CV as terrorist organizations

    It's correct for the United States to consider the PCC and Comando Vermelho as terrorist organizations and that this even helps to financially strangle them by using the FATF, which becomes available to fight international money laundering.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says it is correct for the U.S. to consider those factions as terrorists and that this helps combat money laundering.

  165. Kim Kataguiri

    17:30

    Against

    About: military intervention by the United States in Brazil

    Now, we can't fall for the false narrative that the United States will come here to Brazil and exterminate the PCC and Comando Vermelho.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence repeats that one should not believe the U.S. will 'entrar aqui' and exterminate the factions.

  166. Kim Kataguiri

    17:37

    There is an illusion among the more radical Bolsonarist camp that Trump has any interest other than the United States' own interest.
  167. Kim Kataguiri

    17:47

    That he has some kind of republicanism that says, 'No, I'm very concerned with Brazil's commercial, security and freedom issues.'
  168. Kim Kataguiri

    17:54

    Trump couldn't care less.
  169. Kim Kataguiri

    17:57

    How many times have I heard Bolsonarists say, 'Look, Trump cares about freedom of expression, he's concerned with combating the abuses of the Supreme Court.'
  170. Kim Kataguiri

    18:05

    When he sat with Lula and made a trade deal, Trump the next day forgot about it, Bolsonaro was arrested, he did absolutely nothing, Alexandre de Moraes continued making the same decisions, the United States did nothing because he was only defending his own commercial interest.
  171. Kim Kataguiri

    18:20

    As I said from the beginning and was heavily criticized for, time has shown I was right.
  172. Kim Kataguiri

    18:25

    For

    About: combat the PCC and the Comando Vermelho with Brazilian police and support from the Armed Forces

    So Renan's point is this: those who have to exterminate Comando Vermelho and Primeiro Comando da Capital are the Brazilian police forces.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says Brazilian police should be responsible for confronting the factions.

  173. Kim Kataguiri

    18:33

    For

    About: combat the PCC and the Comando Vermelho with Brazilian police and support from the Armed Forces

    with the aid of the Armed Forces, as we defend.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence supports police action with help from the Armed Forces, ‘como nós defendemos’.

  174. Kim Kataguiri

    18:36

    For

    About: declare a state of defense to allow searches and seizures without a warrant in territories dominated by organized crime

    Indeed, one of Renan's proposals is the declaration of a State of Defense so that we can prohibit public gatherings within territories dominated by organized crime and carry out searches and seizures in those territories without a court order.

    Why it was classified this way · 84% confidence presents the party's state-defense proposal to carry out searches and ban meetings in those areas.

  175. Kim Kataguiri

    18:49

    The point is, there is no miracle, there is no external savior.
  176. Kim Kataguiri

    18:54

    Brazil's internal problem will only be combated internally.
  177. Kim Kataguiri

    18:57

    Neutral

    About: prevent money laundering and trafficking to the United States

    The United States' interest is only that there be no money laundering by the PCC and Comando Vermelho in the United States and that drugs don't enter the United States.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence attributes to the U.S. a narrowly focused interest in preventing money laundering and drug entry (description).

  178. Kim Kataguiri

    19:04

    Now, regarding what they do in Brazil, Trump couldn't care less.
  179. Desconhecido

    19:10

    It's a matter of national sovereignty, right?
  180. Desconhecido

    19:12

    We have to, as they say, take care of our own backyard, right?
  181. Kim Kataguiri

    19:15

    For

    About: intervene in Venezuela to depose Nicolás Maduro

    I already find it humiliating that we went through the situation with Venezuela. In my view, Brazil should be the powerful country and the police of South America and the police of our hemisphere.

    Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence says that, if there were a legitimate action, Brazil should depose an illegitimate neighboring leader.

  182. Kim Kataguiri

    19:27

    Because if there is, most countries did not consider Nicolás Maduro's presidency legitimate and recognized him as a drug cartel leader and head of a narco-state.
  183. Kim Kataguiri

    19:39

    So, if there is any country that should make the law apply and depose an illegitimate leader who is its neighbor, it should be Brazil.
  184. Kim Kataguiri

    19:49

    For

    About: strengthen defense capacity to guarantee Brazilian sovereignty

    But with the defense capacity we have today, if any of the two powerful world poles — whether the United States with the European Union and Israel, or China, Russia and Iran — wanted to carry out some military action in Brazil, we are absolutely defenseless.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence says that, with current capacity, Brazil would be on the defensive; complains about a lack of sovereignty.

  185. Kim Kataguiri

    20:09

    There is no Brazilian sovereignty.
  186. Desconhecido

    20:11

    And this year we continue in polarization with the two names, right and left, that stand out in the polls for president: Lula and Flávio Bolsonaro.
  187. Desconhecido

    20:26

    How do you see it — once again everything revolves around this polarization, sometimes without opening space for what is the so-famous third way, which never seems to emerge?
  188. Kim Kataguiri

    20:40

    Neutral

    About: emergence of a third presidential option

    I don't think there is a third way.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence says he does not believe in the existence of a third way (opinion on the electoral scenario).

  189. Kim Kataguiri

    20:42

    I think there is a dispute to occupy the right-wing pole, which is the contest between Renan and Flávio Bolsonaro.
  190. Kim Kataguiri

    20:48

    I don't even know if Flávio will be free in time to run in the elections.
  191. Kim Kataguiri

    20:52

    I also don't think Bolsonaro will backtrack regarding Flávio's candidacy, because Bolsonaro preferred to be almost certain of defeat by launching Flávio than to be almost certain of victory by launching Tarcísio.
  192. Kim Kataguiri

    21:05

    Because for Bolsonaro it's more interesting to lose with Flávio than to win with Tarcísio.
  193. Kim Kataguiri

    21:09

    Because if Bolsonaro had given his support to Tarcísio... When the election started, no one would remember Bolsonaro anymore.
  194. Kim Kataguiri

    21:16

    His part would have been resolved, which was to give his support to someone.
  195. Kim Kataguiri

    21:18

    Then, if Tarcísio won, he would have no obligations to Bolsonaro.
  196. Kim Kataguiri

    21:22

    The only way for him to survive, to remain relevant, to have any political capital, is to keep it within his family.
  197. Kim Kataguiri

    21:28

    So, first, I think there will be a big collapse, as is already happening, of Flávio's pre-candidacy.
  198. Kim Kataguiri

    21:35

    And everything indicates there is much more to come out about him.
  199. Kim Kataguiri

    21:38

    And then, I think... The only chance Lula would have to win in the second round would be to face Flávio, but he is not in a good moment; Lula is worn out, the only enthusiasm his base has comes from Flávio's decline, but they don't consider that Lula is doing well or that Lula would perform strongly.
  200. Kim Kataguiri

    21:58

    For

    About: take Renan Santos to the second round and defeat him

    So, in my assessment, Renan's pre-candidacy to reach the second round against Lula has every chance of winning.

    Why it was classified this way · 86% confidence says Renan's candidacy can win in the second round against Lula.

  201. Desconhecido

    22:05

    Do you believe in the possibility of Renan making it to the second round?
  202. Kim Kataguiri

    22:08

    For

    About: increase awareness and support for Renan Santos in the State

    I have absolutely no doubt, I have absolutely no doubt.

    Why it was classified this way · 84% confidence expresses confidence in Renan's growth and his 'conhece e vota' rate.

  203. Kim Kataguiri

    22:10

    He is the one growing the most; he has the highest 'knows and would vote' rate.
  204. Kim Kataguiri

    22:13

    When he is in a television debate, even Flávio's campaign told the media that if it were Renan they wouldn't go, which I think was the most grotesque campaign mistake I've ever seen, because that was a gift to us — an amateurish thing to say, look, we're afraid of your pre-candidacy, we're afraid that Renan will go to the debates.
  205. Kim Kataguiri

    22:30

    And that's natural.
  206. Kim Kataguiri

    22:31

    For

    About: present government proposals and prepare to run in elections

    It's natural because Flávio is unprepared; Flávio has no ideology, no proposals in his own head — of the few things he has in his head, a proposal is definitely not one of them.

    Why it was classified this way · 78% confidence criticizes Flávio for lack of proposals and readiness, advocating a candidate with a program.

  207. Kim Kataguiri

    22:41

    And all the scandals that Renan will certainly make a point of holding Flávio Bolsonaro to account for and of going after, as he is able to do, will apply both to Flávio and to Lula.

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