Kim Kataguiri: Today we have our own oil production, we are self-sufficient in crude oil, we export oil, but we still need to import derivatives because we don't have refineries capable of meeting the national market.
Kim Kataguiri: I heard all kinds of nonsense here — and mind you, I'm no specialist in the oil and gas sector — but, just by knowing a little more than the basics, I wouldn't say such big nonsense as: "Look, the problem is the distributor's sale".
Folks, a distributor is not responsible for refining, for our not having diesel here, for us not being self-sufficient in petroleum derivatives.
Kim Kataguiri: The distributor has absolutely nothing to do with this point.
Kim Kataguiri: "Oh no, it's because there is an abusive increase by the gas station".