Kim Kataguiri: They send it to a private fund, execute public policy spending through that private fund, and this occurs in the budget that is outside the General Budget of the Union, which is not under our control in parliament, and which takes place in a very non-transparent manner.
Kim Kataguiri: Your Excellency complained in several interviews that I watched and read in recent weeks about the so-called bombshell measures approved by the National Congress.
I was here for the vote on each one of them and I voted against each of them.
Kim Kataguiri: The entirety of the Lula government's base voted in favor of them, Minister.
Kim Kataguiri: Seven — there were seven special retirements, salary floors, both in committees and in the plenary of the Chamber.