Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: When a guy confesses the crime, it's because he committed a crime.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: People went there and reported that there was theft at Petrobrás; it may have happened. What I mean is that to fight corruption, you didn't need to ruin the companies.
you didn't need to close the companies. In Korea they didn't shut down Samsung, in Germany they didn't shut down Volkswagen, in France they didn't shut down Alstom; that is, they arrested the company owner and the workers kept working, the company kept producing and things happened. You know that the Paulo Petrochini of Itaboraí was 85% ready.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: It was 85% ready.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: The largest petrochemical hub this country could have had.