Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: I firmly believe that...
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: I am against privatization.
I think privatizing Petrobras is madness; his government just privatized the gas pipelines and today we pay 3 billion reais per year in pipeline rent to use the pipelines. That is, in 10 years the money they got has already been consumed and even so we will continue paying 3 billion. I, honestly, think.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: that privatization is not the solution to anything.
Desconhecido: The next question is from the journalist from Folha de São Paulo, Patrícia Campos Mello.