Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: And many people in this country said it was impossible to extract oil from 7,000 meters deep.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: And we managed to extract it, and today the barrel of oil brought to land is almost the same price as a barrel of oil from Saudi Arabia.
The second thing is that I did Petrobras' capitalization of 70 billion, it was the largest capitalization in the history of capitalism in December 2010 and I turned Petrobras into the second largest energy company in the world.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: And that allowed us to become self-sufficient.
Luis Inacio Lula da Silva: What happened is that we decided to build refineries, yes.