Desconhecido: Never discussed, states and municipalities are penalized, municipalities even more so, and they are penalized because of this bad federative pact.
Desconhecido: What proposal is viable for a federative pact, given your experience as a state governor?
Paulo, I'm always in favor of the revenue staying where it is generated.
Romeu Zema: As much of it as possible staying where it's generated is ideal.
Romeu Zema: Everything goes to Brasília, a much larger share than it should, and then you have a very large concentration of power, and when there's concentration of power you get what we're seeing now, these great abuses.