Desconhecido: symbolic, which takes the cognitive shortcuts of people and people go, lie, lie. So this ended up being a strategy, even if he didn't do media training, it ended up being a positive strategy, right? And Lula losing his speech, his voice there was complicated for him. The
Desconhecido: journalists' block, in which they ask the questions, there is no reply — your assessment of the impact of that block on the debate: did it manage to set some important themes, like the issue of the Supreme Court, the issue of fake news, but did they answer, in your view?
They didn't answer; if they had answered, maybe it would have been the best part, the most constructive part of the debate, but they didn't answer, they said whatever they wanted.
Desconhecido: Deise, already giving a preview of tomorrow's Análise de Pesquisas program, we know that tomorrow there's the IPEC poll, there's fieldwork that won't capture the effects of the debate, which is ending now, but it might eventually pick up the case of the girls from Venezuela.
Desconhecido: What's your assessment of the impact this debate may have, Datafolha, midweek and in this final stretch of the campaign?