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192 classified statements · 1 politicians · June 5, 2026 · 21 min

Statements by Kim Kataguiri. 192 excerpts classified by topic and stance. Topics: Governance and Corruption, Freedom of Expression / Censorship, Extremism and Hate Speech, Digital environment regulation.

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  1. Kim Kataguiri

    0:00

    Neutral

    About: investigate allegations of corruption and money laundering against pre-candidates

    The pre-candidate of Missão, who is Renan Santos, who is your pre-candidate for the Presidency of the Republic, he may even be unknown to most of the population, but he is known in the news for some allegations, among them influence peddling, money laundering, and he is also suspected of mismanaging the companies he owns, because he drove some companies into bankruptcy.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence reports that the pre-candidate is known for complaints, without proposing concrete action.

  2. Kim Kataguiri

    0:18

    Neutral

    About: investigate allegations of corruption and money laundering against pre-candidates

    First, I wanted to know if you would vouch for him, because once he becomes known, even previously unknown allegations can become known.

    Why it was classified this way · 65% confidence rhetorically asks about the risk of complaints becoming public, without proposing a specific action.

  3. Kim Kataguiri

    0:24

    Neutral

    About: investigate allegations of corruption and money laundering against pre-candidates

    I want to know if you would vouch for him and if someone who bankrupted private companies has the capacity to run a country.

    Why it was classified this way · 65% confidence questions the pre-candidate's managerial capacity in light of alleged company bankruptcies.

  4. Desconhecido

    0:59

    Deputy, it's...
  5. Desconhecido

    1:00

    Neutral

    About: allow freedom of expression without limits

    Do you defend unlimited freedom of expression?

    Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence asks if the interlocutor supports freedom without limits; does not declare an opinion.

  6. Desconhecido

    1:02

    I'll put it in context.
  7. Desconhecido

    1:04

    Neutral

    About: defend the right of Nazi parties to exist in Germany

    An older statement that generated controversy: you defended the right of Nazi parties to exist in Germany.

    Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence accuses/asks whether he defended that right; states the accusation without taking a position.

  8. Desconhecido

    1:11

    Neutral

    About: guarantee freedom of expression on social networks and not adopt a foreign censorship model

    I want to know here in Brazil if you think people have the right to say whatever they want on the internet.

    Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence questions whether people have the right to say whatever they want online, without giving an opinion.

  9. Desconhecido

    1:16

    Neutral

    About: combat disinformation and hate crimes on the internet

    I say this because hate crimes are committed on the internet and invented news is also published — I won't even call them false, they are deliberately invented reports that can manipulate the population.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence describes occurrences of hate crimes and fabricated news on the internet.

  10. Desconhecido

    1:27

    Neutral

    About: allow freedom of expression without limits

    So do you still defend freedom of expression without limits?

    Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence repeats the question about defending freedom without limits; does not state a position.

  11. Kim Kataguiri

    1:31

    Against

    About: allow freedom of expression without limits

    Look, I have never defended unlimited freedom of expression and I never defended what you said there, quote, "Nazi countries in Germany."

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly denies having defended unrestricted freedom of expression.

  12. Kim Kataguiri

    1:37

    That would not even be possible.
  13. Kim Kataguiri

    1:39

    Nazi political parties.
  14. Kim Kataguiri

    1:40

    Against

    About: defend Nazi political parties in Germany

    I also never defended Nazi political parties in Germany.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly denies having defended Nazi parties in Germany.

  15. Kim Kataguiri

    1:43

    For

    About: promote access to and teaching of historical documents of Nazism

    What I defended was that people should have access to historical documents about Nazism precisely so that, by understanding the atrocity that Nazism was... Not only should it remain criminalized — I never advocated its decriminalization — but so that people understand the perversity of what it was, the truth of what the Holocaust was, because unfortunately in Brazil there is a trivialization of the Holocaust and of the label 'Nazi'.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence advocates access to historical documents to understand the Holocaust.

  16. Kim Kataguiri

    2:06

    Often, and you see this mainly from the left.
  17. Kim Kataguiri

    2:09

    When you dissent from leftist public policies, you are labeled a fascist and a Nazi.
  18. Kim Kataguiri

    2:14

    This diminishes the historical weight of what Nazism was, of what the Holocaust was, because there is no parallel between a political disagreement within Brazil's democratic framework and branding someone as advocating an industrial-style mass genocide without parallel in history.
  19. Kim Kataguiri

    2:29

    So that's the point.
  20. Kim Kataguiri

    2:31

    For

    About: impose legal limits on freedom of expression

    Second, I never defended unrestricted freedom of expression, not even in the United States itself.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence states they never defend unrestricted freedom and advocates a doctrine compatible with local law.

  21. Kim Kataguiri

    2:36

    which is the country that grants the broadest scope of freedom of expression — even insults and defamation, for example, are not crimes in the United States — but even there, as a constitutional right, it is not unrestricted.
  22. Kim Kataguiri

    2:48

    And the most commonly used example in legal doctrine is that in the United States you do not have the right to shout "fire" inside a movie theater, because you will cause danger and harm to other people, even though, in theory, that might fall under freedom of expression.
  23. Kim Kataguiri

    3:03

    For

    About: criminally hold authors of defamation and incitement on the Internet accountable

    Here in Brazil, and I defend a doctrine that is more compatible with our legal system, which comes from Roman law and German law, which is that you should be held responsible for the damage you cause when you accuse, for example, someone unjustly of a crime.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence defends accountability when someone falsely accuses another of a crime without proof.

  24. Kim Kataguiri

    3:20

    For

    About: criminally hold authors of defamation and incitement on the Internet accountable

    When you falsely attribute criminal conduct — if I say someone stole and I don't prove it, raped, murdered and I don't prove it — I must be held accountable for that.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says falsely imputing criminal conduct should lead to accountability.

  25. Kim Kataguiri

    3:30

    For

    About: punish and hold accountable incitement to crime and recruitment for criminal factions

    In the same way, if I incite crime, if I recruit people for organized crime, if I tell or encourage people to use drugs, encourage people to... to join the PCC, the Comando Vermelho, for example, I don't think there should be unrestricted freedom of expression, no.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence denies unrestricted freedom by citing incitement and recruitment to factions as an example.

  26. Desconhecido

    3:48

    Neutral

    About: adopt an independent foreign policy toward China and the United States

    Just to pick up on this, returning a bit to the question of factions, of criminal organizations, in your assessment, what happens to national sovereignty?

    Why it was classified this way · 60% confidence asks whether the US decision regarding factions threatens Brazilian sovereignty.

  27. Desconhecido

    3:57

    Isn't there a risk with that decision by the United States?
  28. Kim Kataguiri

    4:01

    No.
  29. Kim Kataguiri

    4:02

    For

    About: allow each country to define its own terrorist organizations

    First, because we consider — I just cited for you the example of Hezbollah — we do not violate the sovereignty of Arab countries by Brazil considering Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization, as practically the whole free world considers.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence argues it is an act of sovereignty for a country to designate terrorist organizations.

  30. Kim Kataguiri

    4:15

    So it is a unilateral act of sovereignty by the country itself to decide... which organizations your country considers terrorist or non-terrorist?
  31. Kim Kataguiri

    4:24

    And it doesn't matter whether they are national or international.
  32. Kim Kataguiri

    4:26

    And the United States makes that decision.
  33. Kim Kataguiri

    4:28

    Not because it's concerned about organized crime in Brazil, but because it's concerned about the export of drugs to the United States, because it's concerned about money laundering in the United States, because it's concerned about Americans.
  34. Kim Kataguiri

    4:38

    Which is another point as well.
  35. Kim Kataguiri

    4:40

    Often the Bolsonarist discourse implies — and I've heard this several times.
  36. Kim Kataguiri

    4:45

    Against

    About: rely on foreign intervention to combat Brazilian factions

    "No, if Lula couldn't fight the criminal factions, then let's leave the problem to Trump."

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence states that Trump would not solve Brazilian factions and rejects shifting the problem abroad.

  37. Kim Kataguiri

    4:49

    Trump is not going to send any troops here to exchange gunfire with a faction member.
  38. Kim Kataguiri

    4:53

    He will not end organized crime here.
  39. Kim Kataguiri

    4:55

    For

    About: combat organized crime through regional partnerships

    Only Brazil is capable of facing Brazilian criminal factions.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence argues that only Brazil can confront its criminal factions.

  40. Kim Kataguiri

    4:59

    The United States will confront these factions outside our borders, where it is of interest to the United States.
  41. Kim Kataguiri

    5:05

    There is no risk regarding sovereignty, especially since the United States has already invaded countries
  42. Kim Kataguiri

    5:10

    that it did not consider to have terrorist organizations.
  43. Kim Kataguiri

    5:13

    So if Trump wants to invade a country, he has the military power to do so; he doesn't need to designate any organization as terrorist, he can go in and invade, as he has already shown he can do, just as other developed countries with military capability can also do.
  44. Kim Kataguiri

    5:28

    For

    About: strengthen defense capacity to guarantee Brazilian sovereignty

    Unfortunately, Brazil, despite that sovereignty rhetoric from the Lula government, recently had an interview with the Minister of Defense saying, quote, "we have no defense."

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence quotes a minister saying 'não temos defesa' to argue a lack of sovereignty.

  45. Kim Kataguiri

    5:37

    In other words, if the Minister of Defense says we have no defense, we have no sovereignty.
  46. Kim Kataguiri

    5:41

    We do not control our own territory.
  47. Kim Kataguiri

    5:43

    Neutral

    About: reduce areas under control of criminal organizations

    40 million Brazilians are under the dominion of territories controlled by organized crime.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states a statistic about Brazilians living under territories controlled by organized crime.

  48. Kim Kataguiri

    5:48

    At the same time, if any country wants to invade Brazil — any developed country, any country that has at least minimally funded and structured armed forces — they will invade.
  49. Kim Kataguiri

    5:57

    We do not have sovereignty because we have no way to defend ourselves.
  50. Desconhecido

    6:00

    Deputy, what is your opinion on amnesty for those convicted over January 8?
  51. Kim Kataguiri

    6:05

    Against

    About: grant amnesty to participants in the January 8, 2023 demonstrations

    I am against amnesty, first, because... I consider that crimes were committed.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence explicitly declares 'eu sou contra a anistia'.

  52. Kim Kataguiri

    6:09

    Against

    About: consider January 8 an attempted coup

    I disagree with the Supreme Court in thinking that there was an attempted coup on January 8.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence disagrees with the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal)'s assessment that there was an attempted coup.

  53. Kim Kataguiri

    6:14

    I think they must answer for damage to property, for vandalism, for those who assaulted police officers, those who threatened police officers, those who confronted the security forces.
  54. Kim Kataguiri

    6:23

    All of them must be held accountable for the crimes they committed.
  55. Kim Kataguiri

    6:26

    One crime, moreover, I think against the country, was that criminal who destroyed the clock that has been there since the time of Dom João VI.
  56. Kim Kataguiri

    6:34

    In other words, the clock survived
  57. Kim Kataguiri

    6:37

    the world wars, but it did not survive a lunatic who went to invade the Praça dos Três Poderes.
  58. Kim Kataguiri

    6:43

    For

    About: apply sentencing guidelines when determining penalties

    Now, what I defend and what I voted for was the PL (Liberal Party) on sentencing dosimetry, so that these people would indeed be sentenced with penalties proportionate to the crimes they committed.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence says he voted in favor of the bill on sentencing dosimetry to ensure compatible penalties.

  59. Kim Kataguiri

    6:53

    I do not support amnesty, because amnesty starts from the premise that crimes were committed and you want to forgive.
  60. Kim Kataguiri

    6:59

    I do not want to forgive the crimes committed; I want them to be held accountable for the crimes committed, which are different from the crimes for which they were convicted.
  61. Desconhecido

    7:06

    Deputy, I want to ask you about ending the 6x1 schedule.
  62. Desconhecido

    7:11

    It was an almost unanimous vote there in the Chamber of Deputies, but you voted against ending the 6x1 schedule.
  63. Desconhecido

    7:21

    I want to understand from you whether you saw some problem in the wording of the PEC or whether you are simply against Brazilian workers having more rest time without that amount being deducted from their salary.
  64. Kim Kataguiri

    7:35

    Against

    About: end the 6x1 shift schedule through effective measures

    Yes, and to correct you, I did not vote against ending the 6x1 schedule; I voted against the PEC that falsely promises to end the 6x1 schedule.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence says he voted against the PEC that promises to end the 6x1 work schedule.

  65. Kim Kataguiri

    7:43

    It's obvious that no one defends that the worker be forced to be exploited and work six days a week without time to study, to rest, to be with their family, to take care of their children.
  66. Kim Kataguiri

    7:55

    Now, what I did not do, and modesty aside, courageously, because the majority of deputies were cowardly — in fact, many, indeed the majority that I know who voted in favor do not believe in the PEC, do not think it will have positive effects.
  67. Kim Kataguiri

    8:08

    So there is a big difference, and I distance myself strongly from those deputies, between those who have a conviction and vote against it for electoral populism, and those who have a conviction and maintain that conviction at the time of voting, which is my case.
  68. Kim Kataguiri

    8:24

    Against

    About: end the 6x1 shift schedule through effective measures

    The PEC does not end the 6x1 schedule, because ending the 6x1 involves enriching the country, involves a material change, involves a change of money.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says the PEC would not produce material change and therefore he opposed it.

  69. Kim Kataguiri

    8:32

    For

    About: increase investment in infrastructure, skills training, and science and technology

    And to have a change in funding, you need to cut spending and redirect those funds to infrastructure, workforce training, science and technology, something Brazil has not done in the last 40 years.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence alleges that structural change and investment are necessary to reduce working hours.

  70. Kim Kataguiri

    8:41

    Our productivity over the last 40 years has grown 18% — that's nothing.
  71. Kim Kataguiri

    8:45

    Our peer developing countries grew 130%.
  72. Kim Kataguiri

    8:48

    This has allowed workers in those other countries — I'm not talking about the developed ones, but our peers — to work less and earn more.
  73. Kim Kataguiri

    8:57

    Putting text in the Constitution saying that it is prohibited — there are many things that are prohibited in our country that happen in practice every day.
  74. Kim Kataguiri

    9:05

    Legally, for instance, you could only hire through the CLT.
  75. Kim Kataguiri

    9:10

    We have an overwhelming majority of Brazilian workers who are either informal or are PJ (legal entities/independent contractors).
  76. Kim Kataguiri

    9:16

    For

    About: modernize labor legislation and work regulation

    Because the CLT has failed.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence states that the CLT 'faliu' and describes high informality, signaling the need for change.

  77. Kim Kataguiri

    9:17

    Just as it is pointless to put text in the Constitution thinking that it will become reality if you do not take effective action to make it so.
  78. Kim Kataguiri

    9:26

    For

    About: implement public policies to improve quality of life

    In the Constitution we have the right to health, to education, security, leisure, work, housing — none of that is a right in practice.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says rights guaranteed in the Constitution only become real through government action.

  79. Kim Kataguiri

    9:32

    In reality, it's only in the text of the Constitution.
  80. Kim Kataguiri

    9:34

    So they can put whatever they want in the Constitution's text; if there isn't a government that will effectively work to increase worker productivity, the country's productivity, improve our trade balance, improve our primary surplus, delink our budget, have discretionary spending space to invest in infrastructure, there won't be workers working less and receiving the same pay.
  81. Kim Kataguiri

    9:55

    In fact, I even said during the vote that if it came into effect now, immediately, people would clearly see that it would not change their reality.
  82. Desconhecido

    10:03

    I'll tell you something new, Deputy.
  83. Desconhecido

    10:06

    I don't know if you know this, but you are criticized by the left.
  84. Desconhecido

    10:11

    Your movement helped elect Jair Bolsonaro.
  85. Desconhecido

    10:14

    Your movement, and you, were at the time the main exponents.
  86. Desconhecido

    10:17

    But at a certain point, MBL and you broke with Bolsonarism.
  87. Desconhecido

    10:22

    And now you have become a target of Bolsonarism.
  88. Desconhecido

    10:26

    Why did that break occur?
  89. Desconhecido

    10:27

    What is the criticism you make of that wing of the Brazilian right, which is the majority of the Brazilian right today?
  90. Kim Kataguiri

    10:34

    Well, we tried at all costs to have another candidate on the right so that whoever went to the second round in 2018 would not be Jair Bolsonaro.
  91. Kim Kataguiri

    10:43

    He went to the second round; we had to make the tactical vote to defeat the PT, since we had just organized demonstrations for impeachment, put Lula in prison, removed Dilma, and we had the hope that... a new government could bring change.
  92. Kim Kataguiri

    10:57

    Our break... with Bolsonaro, and I want to make clear, I was never a deputy in Bolsonaro's government base; I have always been independent, I went into opposition.
  93. Kim Kataguiri

    11:05

    Why?
  94. Kim Kataguiri

    11:06

    Neutral

    About: fulfill proposals and not deceive voters

    Because he himself broke his campaign promises.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence attributes to the president the failure to keep campaign promises and criticizes the lack of follow-through.

  95. Kim Kataguiri

    11:08

    In Bolsonaro's first year in office, I saw him end Operation Car Wash by appointing a PT (Workers' Party) Attorney General of the Republic, who prohibited task-force models like Operation Car Wash.
  96. Kim Kataguiri

    11:17

    I saw him appoint Cássio Nunes to the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), who, at every opportunity to vote in favor of Lula and in favor of those investigated in Operation Car Wash, did so.
  97. Kim Kataguiri

    11:25

    For

    About: comply with limits of the fiscal framework

    I saw Bolsonaro and Paulo Guedes break the spending cap in the first year of government, because oftentimes Bolsonaro supporters say, no, we broke it during the pandemic, which is natural, justifiable—any government would have broken the cap during the pandemic, which was a very extraordinary event.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence criticizes the operation of breaching the spending cap as an action by the Bolsonaro government.

  98. Kim Kataguiri

    11:38

    But no, it was before.
  99. Kim Kataguiri

    11:39

    It was before, in 2019, and later with the PEC-Camicase, which is very similar to the package of handouts that Lula and Dilma always did in their final years in office, which created a deficit of more than 100 billion reais, and they who had always been critics of Bolsa Família.
  100. Kim Kataguiri

    11:54

    They turbocharged Bolsa Família like never before, creating a fiscal hole without having the revenue to do this with the PEC Kamikaze in the last year of the term.
  101. Kim Kataguiri

    12:03

    For

    About: toughen criminal law

    So, even on their main plank, which was public security, there was no bill to toughen sentences.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence criticizes the lack of a bill to toughen penalties and notes absence of measures.

  102. Kim Kataguiri

    12:10

    There wasn't — on the contrary.
  103. Kim Kataguiri

    12:12

    When Sérgio Moro sent the anti-crime package, Bolsonaro's government base voted in favor of an amendment by deputy Marcelo Freixo, of PSOL.
  104. Kim Kataguiri

    12:20

    which created the judge of guarantees.
  105. Kim Kataguiri

    12:21

    And Bolsonaro signed it because the judge of guarantees would benefit
  106. Kim Kataguiri

    12:25

    Flávio, his son, who stole money from the Legislative Assembly of Rio de Janeiro, was part of the same scandal as the PT (Workers' Party), in fact, because the president of the legislature was André Siciliano, who later went to work at Glaze Hoffman, now in the Lula government, and Flávio Bolsonaro was under the command of a PT deputy and together they stole money in the Legislative Assembly of Rio de Janeiro, and Jair Bolsonaro acted to shield his own son from that scandal.
  107. Kim Kataguiri

    12:46

    He favored all the criminals in the country, signing the judge-of-guarantees measure and not approving any major bill to increase penalties.
  108. Kim Kataguiri

    12:52

    For

    About: increase penalties for theft, robbery and receiving stolen goods

    I, a single deputy from a party that has a one-man caucus, being in opposition, managed to get a bill increasing penalties for theft, robbery, and receiving stolen goods approved and signed just now.

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence claims authorship and approval of a bill increasing penalties for those crimes.

  109. Kim Kataguiri

    13:02

    I am not the President of the Republic, I am not the leader of a large caucus, I am the leader of myself, and yet I managed to do that.
  110. Kim Kataguiri

    13:07

    Imagine him with the presidential pen—he didn't do it out of sheer incompetence and also because he's compromised.
  111. Kim Kataguiri

    13:12

    For

    About: submit monocratic decisions of the STF to the Plenary

    We also approved, during Jair Bolsonaro's legislature, the end of single-judge decisions, making it mandatory to submit single-judge decisions to the Full Court of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).

    Why it was classified this way · 85% confidence says he approved ending single-judge rulings, defending submission to the Plenary.

  112. Kim Kataguiri

    13:22

    He vetoed it—he vetoed it at the request of Dias Toffoli.
  113. Kim Kataguiri

    13:25

    So, the Bolsonaro family doesn't mention that one of the main measures they defend as containing the STF, which is the end of single-judge decisions, we approved.
  114. Kim Kataguiri

    13:34

    And it's only not in force because Bolsonaro vetoed it at Dias Toffoli's request — someone he claimed was a great enemy — yet behind the scenes he would go to watch Palmeiras' match at the Planalto (Presidential Palace) with Dias Toffoli.
  115. Kim Kataguiri

    13:46

    That's the reason for pointing out all these inconsistencies, for pointing out the unpreparedness, for pointing out the lack of commitment to the truth and to Jair Bolsonaro's own proposals, which led us into opposition.
  116. Kim Kataguiri

    13:56

    And also the finding that we, with the impeachment demonstrations, delivered a country with the PT (Workers' Party) destroyed.
  117. Kim Kataguiri

    14:03

    that hid the party's red and star in the 2016 elections, with Lula imprisoned and ineligible, and Bolsonaro returned to us a country with Lula President of the Republic and the PT (Workers' Party) stronger than ever.
  118. Kim Kataguiri

    14:16

    So, if we want our country to no longer be hostage to the PT (Workers' Party) for the rest of our lives, or at least for the next electoral cycles, we need to remove the Bolsonaro family from the head of the Brazilian right.
  119. Desconhecido

    14:30

    Deputy, then getting a little into Renan Santos's candidacy for President of the Republic.
  120. Desconhecido

    14:38

    This week a poll came out, Real Time Big Data, which shows him as the main name of the third way.
  121. Desconhecido

    14:46

    However, his largest electorate is the 'Kiko' public, the country's elitist segment.
  122. Desconhecido

    14:56

    How do you intend to win them over?
  123. Desconhecido

    14:59

    The other part of the electorate, the poor, low-income public, which is the largest part of Brazil's electorate.
  124. Desconhecido

    15:07

    In other words, you only talk to a niche.
  125. Desconhecido

    15:10

    How do you intend to engage with the rest of the country and become known throughout the rest of the country?
  126. Kim Kataguiri

    15:15

    For

    About: dialogue with Generation Z voters

    I want to raise two points.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence says the electorate cut is generational and they are targeting Generation Z.

  127. Kim Kataguiri

    15:16

    The main way to slice our electorate is not by income.
  128. Kim Kataguiri

    15:19

    The main division is by age.
  129. Kim Kataguiri

    15:21

    Young people, poor and rich alike, as a rule, are with the Missão party; they are with Renan Santos's pre-candidacy.
  130. Kim Kataguiri

    15:27

    Neutral

    About: increase national recognition of pre-candidate Renan Santos

    Among 16 to 24 year olds, we are in first place with Renan, having over 80% unfamiliarity.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence reports a survey showing high unfamiliarity among young people, describing a campaign problem.

  131. Kim Kataguiri

    15:33

    First place in all income brackets.
  132. Kim Kataguiri

    15:35

    So, first point: our party's initial segmentation is generational.
  133. Kim Kataguiri

    15:39

    We are the first party that engages with and represents, for the most part, Generation Z.
  134. Kim Kataguiri

    15:44

    Next, I will disagree with the criterion you use to call someone rich, because for me... Someone who earns from 2 to 5 minimum wages and from 5 to 10 minimum wages is not a millionaire, is not rich.
  135. Kim Kataguiri

    15:55

    When people hear the word 'rich', it's different from the IBGE criterion.
  136. Kim Kataguiri

    15:59

    For the IBGE, a person who earns 5 minimum wages is rich because we're in a miserable country.
  137. Kim Kataguiri

    16:04

    But in reality, with 5 minimum wages, a McDonald's manager in the United States earns more than that.
  138. Kim Kataguiri

    16:11

    But when you look at the general population's criteria...
  139. Desconhecido

    16:14

    It's just a connection — it's the data from the poll that I brought here, it's not my opinion.
  140. Kim Kataguiri

    16:18

    That's all.
  141. Kim Kataguiri

    16:18

    No, perfect.
  142. Kim Kataguiri

    16:19

    The data from the Real Time Big Data poll that came out this week.
  143. Kim Kataguiri

    16:22

    That's why I'm explaining, because this criterion for 'rich' is used by the IBGE, which you are using as a journalist and all journalists use that criterion.
  144. Kim Kataguiri

    16:29

    But just to explain, because when people hear 'rich' it sounds like we have broad support among millionaires.
  145. Kim Kataguiri

    16:34

    And even if we did, it wasn't even 1% in the poll — we don't have that number of millionaires in Brazil.
  146. Kim Kataguiri

    16:38

    So, the first segmentation is generational.
  147. Kim Kataguiri

    16:40

    Second.
  148. Kim Kataguiri

    16:41

    It's natural that we'll have more access and more recognition among the poorer layers of the population when Renan is in televised debates.
  149. Kim Kataguiri

    16:49

    In fact, I hope there is a debate on Rede TV and that he is present, because it will reach a large audience.
  150. Kim Kataguiri

    16:54

    He has never run in an election, never had access to television.
  151. Kim Kataguiri

    16:57

    His main problem is unfamiliarity, because those who know him vote.
  152. Kim Kataguiri

    17:02

    Renan is the one who has the highest vote rate among those who know him of all the candidates, by far.
  153. Kim Kataguiri

    17:10

    He has the highest ceiling, that is, he has the lowest rejection, and he already has a strong floor even with a very high level of unfamiliarity.
  154. Kim Kataguiri

    17:18

    For

    About: increase national recognition of pre-candidate Renan Santos

    So our main mission is to make Renan known, because, generally, those who hear about him understand that he is superior to the other pre-candidates.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence states the mission is to make Renan known; says those who know him tend to vote for him.

  155. Desconhecido

    17:25

    Neutral

    About: investigate allegations of corruption and money laundering against pre-candidates

    Now, Deputy, the Missão pre-candidate, who is Renan Santos, your pre-candidate for the Presidency of the Republic, may be unknown to a large part of the population, but he is known in the news for some allegations, among them influence peddling, money laundering, and he is also suspected of mismanaging the companies he owns, because he broke some companies.

    Why it was classified this way · 70% confidence repeats journalistic allegations about accusations against the pre-candidate and questions trust.

  156. Desconhecido

    17:51

    First, I wanted to know whether you would put your hand in the fire, because from the moment he becomes known, even unknown accusations can become known.
  157. Desconhecido

    18:00

    I want to know whether you put your hand in the fire and whether someone who broke private companies has the capacity to govern a country.
  158. Kim Kataguiri

    18:06

    Neutral

    About: respect judicial decisions and consider acquittal final

    First, there is no accusation against Renan Santos and he never broke any company.

    Why it was classified this way · 80% confidence alleges there is no formal charge because there were acquittals at all levels.

  159. Kim Kataguiri

    18:10

    It is necessary here to establish the truth.
  160. Kim Kataguiri

    18:12

    There was an accusation against the MBL...
  161. Desconhecido

    18:14

    No, an accusation exists and there has not been a conviction yet.
  162. Kim Kataguiri

    18:17

    No, it's over.
  163. Kim Kataguiri

    18:18

    There is no case, there is no accusation, he has already been acquitted at all instances.
  164. Kim Kataguiri

    18:22

    So the accusation does not exist.
  165. Kim Kataguiri

    18:22

    From the moment there is an acquittal, it becomes final and unappealable.
  166. Kim Kataguiri

    18:25

    The accusation ceases to exist.
  167. Kim Kataguiri

    18:27

    It exists while the judge has not yet analyzed the response to the accusation and has not made the person a defendant.
  168. Kim Kataguiri

    18:32

    So, within our legal process, formally, there is no accusation.
  169. Kim Kataguiri

    18:37

    Neutral

    About: punish prosecutors who bring unfounded charges

    Which was, in reality, an accusation made by a pro-Bolsonaro prosecutor that we had laundered 400 million reais through YouTube Super Chat.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence reports that the prosecutor who made the accusation was punished and the complaint was dismissed in the courts.

  170. Kim Kataguiri

    18:45

    400 million reais is more than YouTube's revenue for the whole of Brazil.
  171. Kim Kataguiri

    18:48

    So the absurd accusation was rejected by the judge at first instance, in the second instance as well, and the prosecutor was actually punished and received a reprimand. Instead of us, the MBL, when the accusation arose, we acted very differently from Flávio Bolsonaro—denying that he had a relationship with Vorcaro, later saying he had only ended the relations.
  172. Kim Kataguiri

    19:08

    We didn't.
  173. Kim Kataguiri

    19:09

    Do you have suspicions about us?
  174. Kim Kataguiri

    19:11

    Inspect our accounts; you don't need to break our confidentiality.
  175. Kim Kataguiri

    19:13

    We opened them to the Judiciary, we opened them to the Public Prosecutor's Office, there was absolutely nothing.
  176. Kim Kataguiri

    19:18

    So, the first point is that.
  177. Kim Kataguiri

    19:19

    There is no accusation; we were acquitted on the merits at all instances, and not because of a procedural problem, as was the case with Lula.
  178. Kim Kataguiri

    19:26

    Because one thing is—oh, it expired, they found a nullity.
  179. Kim Kataguiri

    19:29

    No, ours was a judgment on the merits.
  180. Kim Kataguiri

    19:31

    They analyzed the accounts and there was no problem.
  181. Kim Kataguiri

    19:36

    Neutral

    About: recognize judicial recovery practices and asset negotiation by entrepreneurs

    The other point... Renan never broke any company; he made a living buying bankrupt companies, carrying out their restructuring and then he made a living from negotiating those assets.

    Why it was classified this way · 75% confidence explains that Renan bought bankrupt companies and recovered assets, not that he caused companies to fail.

  182. Kim Kataguiri

    19:45

    So much so that when you see allegations that a company has debts of so-and-so amounts, you'll see that the debts were incurred when Renan was 12 years old.
  183. Kim Kataguiri

    19:53

    He didn't found any of those companies, he wasn't responsible for managing any of those companies — that was his job.
  184. Kim Kataguiri

    19:59

    to buy debt, buy broken companies, and then, in judicial recovery, negotiate the assets and keep whatever was left.
  185. Kim Kataguiri

    20:06

    So, he never broke any company, he has full capacity to run the country, and I believe—without even mentioning all the management carried out by the Movimento Brasil Livre over the last 12 years, which was the only movement that survived Dilma's impeachment; no other movement that went to the streets exists today, only the Movimento Brasil Livre, which elected parliamentarians across the country and which... founded a political party.
  186. Kim Kataguiri

    20:29

    when the President of the Republic, Jair Bolsonaro, with the presidential pen, couldn't do it and Renan did, so he has full capacity.
  187. Kim Kataguiri

    20:37

    And I say more: he is the only one who has proposals.
  188. Kim Kataguiri

    20:40

    I ask people to analyze the proposals, because Lula gave up having proposals a long time ago.
  189. Kim Kataguiri

    20:45

    And Flávio Bolsonaro, when asked what his proposal was, said he wouldn't reveal it so he wouldn't be attacked.
  190. Kim Kataguiri

    20:50

    Our proposals are wide open.
  191. Kim Kataguiri

    20:53

    They can attack because we have full capacity to defend these proposals and Renan, without any doubt, will show it by far.
  192. Kim Kataguiri

    21:00

    For

    About: serve as a state platform for Renan Santos's presidential pre-candidacy

    And I would put my hand in the fire, not only regarding Renan's honesty, but regarding his technical capacity, which will make very clear the abyssal gap between his capabilities and those of the other pre-candidates.

    Why it was classified this way · 90% confidence declares 'coloco a mão no fogo' for Renan's honesty and technical ability.

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